There was an article recently about the federal government cracking down on Chipotle restaurants for hiring illegal immigrants. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/chipotle-chain-targeted-federal-immigration-audits.html. The article was not biased, just stating the facts. What really upsets me is reading the vain, self-righteous comments of people screaming “ILLEGALS OUT”. These are people who have never met and talked with an illegal themselves and maybe never owned a restaurant for that matter. I hear from them three main arguments all the time: illegal immigrants work for less, they steal our jobs, and they do not pay taxes.
First, let’s address the argument about working for less. Chipotle as a business is required by law to pay at least minimum wage to all its employees. If they were hiring anyone for less than minimum wage, they would be prosecuted for that offense. Clearly, Chipotle is complying with this law and there must be another reason they are hiring illegal immigrants.
Second, some argue that illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. This is not true also. A lot of illegal immigrants DO have legal Social Security Numbers. They may be illegal for number of reasons: bad lawyers; overstaying under anther visa, not filing paperwork on time, former employer closing the business and thus getting out of work visa status, etc. Even if an illegal immigrant does not have Social Security Number, and is a "border-crosser" as some people call them, they often have a legitimate tax ID or a fake Social Security number so that they can pay taxes-one of the requirements of many businesses.
Finally, let’s discuss the argument of the starving and unemployed Americans who are looking for a job. Yes, there are many unemployed Americans. Very few of them though are willing to work for minimum wages. Let’s make a calculation. If you work for a fast food restaurant 40 hours every week for $7.50 you will get $290 per week before taxes. This is less than the standard $300 per week people get from unemployment benefit nowadays, WITHOUT working.
Furthermore, very, very few of those willing to work for minimum wage are better qualified than the illegal workers. When people say illegal workers are hard working, they are not lying. These are people, who are determined to survive no matter what, who have risked their lives in order to come here and who know how to live frugally and save a lot. They come to work every day, do not complain, do not steal, work hard and care about their families.
What about Americans willing to work for minimum wage? The first group is college students or high-school students looking for part time jobs on evenings and nights. The restaurants though need full-time day laborers. What kind of American will be working for minimum wage, full time? What kind of people are those- born in this country, who went to school here and at the end can only work at a fast food restaurant? More often than not these are people who were so unmotivated that could not even finish their high school and do not qualify for anything better. They are often unreliable, disloyal and with a shady character. If I had a business of my own and had to choose, I would choose the illegal over the legal in a heart beat. And that’s the truth behind the illegal immigrant being hired.
The plaza where illegal immigrants stand day after day looking for a job is a well known public place in Atlanta . They charge about $10-15 dollars an hour. I have used them couple of times to move my furniture. Why is there not a single unemployed American standing next to them, I do not know. Maybe someone can tell me.
Finally, a thought on the whole “government involvement” with illegal immigrants. What I don't understand is how the same people who oppose the meddling of government in other aspects of their lives (health care for example) are so willing to let the government tell them who will clean their kitchen or pick up their apples. Less government is better in ALL aspects of our lives. I understand if the government has to set requirements for legal employment for government jobs, but why would I have to give an account to the government of who I am hiring in my own business. Do Americans feel discriminated against and need some affirmation?
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ReplyDelete"illegal immigrants work for less, they steal our jobs, and they do not pay taxes"
Illegals drag our economy down by providing cheap labor force that live below our standards Illegals create unfair competition to ligament business that follow the rules, we are a country of laws. Stealing means taking something your not entitled to. You don't understand or respect the word ILLEGAL. Sales taxes doesn't come close to the cost. Property taxes from owners pay about 50% for schools, excessive people living in apartments (like most illegals) send their (excessive) children to public schools causing population over crowding without adding to tax base, we limit number of animals to dwellings. Try proving one bedroom per person as intended.
"What kind of American will be working for minimum wage, full time? What kind of people are those- born in this country, who went to school here and at the end can only work at a fast food restaurant?"
More citizens would take these jobs like in the past, but don't because illegals tend to stick together like a gang, don't speak English, don't share our values or views, most are uneducated, substandard to our life style, who destroys our culture, trying to assimilate their culture upon us intimidating applicants who don't want to work alongside people who differ in most of American workable standards. Americans seek self gain, independence, advancement in life. For generations after generations this has worked fine until illegals upset the pattern ruining industries to no return.
"What kind of people are those- born in this country, who went to school here and at the end can only work at a fast food restaurant?"
These jobs use to offer advancement, some still some do, but the downward spiral of this and other industries causes unfair competition destroying ligament business. These are starter jobs, part of our up bringing as youth, most Americans wish to advance. "know how to live frugally and save a lot. They come to work every day, do not complain, do not steal, work hard and care about their families"
Americans share these values most higher but don't want to live as peasants or paid slaves. Everyone companies about something illegals don't differ. Stealing are traits shared by all humans and intensified from substandard upbringings, poor education, low life styles, disconnected families where children follow their parents ways not teaching proper respect. Americans work hard and pay much of the expense illegals don't. Are you trying to say we don't care about our families?
"The plaza where illegal immigrants stand day after day looking for a job is a well known public place in Atlanta. They charge about $10-15 dollars an hour. I have used them couple of times to move my furniture. Why is there not a single unemployed American standing next to them, I do not know. Maybe someone can tell me."
Americans don't stand around loitering, trashing and degrade the communities where they mass to Most Americans can't speak to and don't share their culture or values. You also mentioned $10-15 an hour, that's not minimum wage you mention, how do they pay their taxes? did you pay the insurance, payroll withholding taxes? we have legitimate business here who provide these service by calling them, not going to the streets like druggies do.
"why would I have to give an account to the government of who I am hiring in my own business;"
Without controls we would/ and currently are heading towards the lifestyles of the countries these people come from. Our constitutional rights are being violated by government in many ways trying to control and tax the ligament citizens who pay for those that don't. I don't care to assimilate to their ways.
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"First, let’s address the argument about working for less. Chipotle as a business is required by law to pay at least minimum wage to all its employees. If they were hiring anyone for less than minimum wage"
ReplyDeleteFIRST, If there were no illegals Chipotle and other fast food restaurants would be forced to pay more than the minimum wage. Consequently more Americans CITIZENS would work there if the wage was fair and based on market price. You see illegals affect the market price for salaries.
"The plaza where illegal immigrants stand day after day looking for a job is a well known public place in Atlanta. They charge about $10-15 dollars an hour. I have used them couple of times to move my furniture. Why is there not a single unemployed American standing next to them, I do not know. Maybe someone can tell me. "
Goodness I love these nonsense arguments. You know you can hire a moving company or Handyman right, or even college kids. Of course it will cost you 300-500 dollars. Awesome that you cheated them out of bushiness, so you could save a few bucks.
The author of this article clearly does not have a lower income job and has been benefiting off slave labor.
Here is what is an African American said to me who worked lower income jobs " I didn't study hard in school and I accept that, but I don't accept when I lose jobs to people I know are illegal because they will work for slave wages." His words I am afraid are the truth the liberal democrats and tea-party Republicans ignore. BTW, I mentioned African Americans, since they disproportionally have these jobs.
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